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Kevin Ott
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posted 06-13-2001 02:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kevin Ott   Click Here to Email Kevin Ott     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
So a while ago I was at a Gathering of Old Friends, and there was much revelry and libation and natural splendor and dancing and music. Lots of music. Lots and lots of music. It was great. I discovered, among other things, Melissa Ferrick and The Butchies, both of which I love (particularly Ferrick). But I was with lots of friends who were discussing bands I've never, ever heard of -- bands on the alt-punk scene that have Followings and whose PR efforts consist mostly of stickers. I felt terribly old, though I suspect some of the friends were faking recognition at certain bands.

It got me to thinking: How do we find out about our music? My favorite band, R.E.M., is obviously pretty widely known, so it's not hard for me to keep up. And I find a lot of music through public radio. But lots of my friends -- the ones I see on a regular basis, anyway -- generally stick to tried-and-true stuff. Now, of course, there's tons of ultrapopular stuff that I love. But the radio and MTV are, I think we can all agree, extremely limited ways of discovering new music.

How do you guys do it?

[This message has been edited by Kevin Ott (edited 06-13-2001).]

Dave Thomer
Guardian of Peace and Justice in the Galaxy
posted 06-13-2001 08:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dave Thomer   Click Here to Email Dave Thomer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
MTV2 isn't that bad, actually -- that's hwere I saw Pete Yorn for the first time. You probably won't find anything really obscure, but it's not bad.

I wish I had more patience to listen to XPN and public radio. I'm sure I'm missing a lot of good stuff that way.

At this point, it's just luck, word of mouth, and the occasional interesting thing if I stop by a Tower Records listening station. Since I'm not a huge music collector or anything, that works OK with me.

slgorman
One of the Regulars
posted 07-02-2001 06:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for slgorman   Click Here to Email slgorman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Radio plays a huge part in my "finding" of music. KFOG plays lots of new music (hence, New Music Thursdays) that you just can't hear anywhere else on mainstream radio. And of course, NPR.

Also, friends and family due to the fact that I have some pretty well diversified set of friends and family who play music quite a bit. Namely, mr. sl who does not share many musical tastes with me, so I therefore get subjected to his metal/heavy/rock music regularly. He's the one who, by forcing me repeatedly to listen, turned me on to Tool. He will not, no matter how hard, get me to do more than laugh at Forbidden (so just give up, already!).

Also my brother has got some strange tastes in music and is solely responsible for Phish being added to my musical library. [Feel free to taunt me, Phish haters. I can take it.]

Pattie Gillett
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posted 07-11-2001 01:18 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Pattie Gillett   Click Here to Email Pattie Gillett     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
SL, I'm guessing the station you mentioned is the SF equivalent of Philly's WXPN.

Can I just say that your station has the absolute coolest call letters I've seen? I'd listen to it just on principle.

For those who don't get XPN, it's the home of the World Cafe (they actually produce it here) and other non-mainstream music programs that are syndicated for NPI stations.

Since country radio spazzed out and I lost my Jammin Gold station, I've become an XPN addict. The list of CD's I've heard on the station and want to run out and buy has grown exponentially. (I'm waiting for it to get a bit larger so I can just make one huge order.)

John Mayer's Room For Squares is on the list (though we had seen him in Philly before I heard him on XPN, as is Jonatha Brooke's Steady Pull. I know these albums would have never made it on my wish list if not for XPN.

slgorman
One of the Regulars
posted 07-11-2001 03:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for slgorman   Click Here to Email slgorman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I know, an SF station named KFOG. It doesn't get any more perfect than that. Too bad their logo is kinda lame. It used to blow, IMVHO, when I first moved here 6-7 years ago. The improvements have been slow in coming but significant. They still webcast, and were even featured in the recent Washington Post article on the death of radio webcasting. In part:
quote:
KFOG, a San Francisco adult alternative station, has one of the nation's more popular webcasts, according to MeasureCast, a firm that monitors radio Web
listening. If you listen to KFOG.com, you'll hear the station's deejays and music -
just like always. But when it comes time for commercials, you'll hear the start of
some instrumental, jam-type tunes, and then a voice:

"Hello, and thanks for listening to KFOG. KFOG is no longer allowed to transmit
commercials over the Internet without permission. We'll continue with regular
KFOG programming soon. In the meantime, check out some of the features of
KFOG.com."

The music continues for the duration of the commercial break - several minutes.
Then, it's back to the music and deejays.



Another reason they rule.

Dave Thomer
Guardian of Peace and Justice in the Galaxy
posted 09-11-2001 07:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dave Thomer   Click Here to Email Dave Thomer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Wait, radio webcasting died? I think I missed that obituary. What happened?

Stephanie
One of the Regulars
posted 09-11-2001 09:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Stephanie   Click Here to Email Stephanie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Seriously, Dave? You missed the big fuss about the unions and the commericials and people not being paid regarding territory? I don't know specifics (obviously)but I was very upset when my PLJ went away and I had to rely on sonicnet which (although owned by my lovely Viacom) is just too annoying to deal with.

Dave Thomer
Guardian of Peace and Justice in the Galaxy
posted 09-26-2001 02:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dave Thomer   Click Here to Email Dave Thomer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I did in fact miss that . . . my internet connection was never reliable enough for streaming, so I never bothered once I moved back to Philly and no longer needed the Net to hear Phillies games.

So is it the commercials that get them into trouble, or the actual content?

Stephanie
One of the Regulars
posted 09-26-2001 03:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Stephanie   Click Here to Email Stephanie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
As far as I know it's the commercials, hence sl's cool radio station (KFOG) which edits out the commercials from its webcast and leaves in the djs and the music. WPLJ decided to quit streaming like a lot of stations. Z100 never had streaming on their own station, but I think New Jersey Online had it, but I don't know if they continued with it, and WLIR kept on streaming, commercials and all, but I don't know if they've stopped too, because I haven't listened in a long time.

Pattie Gillett
True Believer
posted 09-26-2001 04:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Pattie Gillett   Click Here to Email Pattie Gillett     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I know of at least two Philly stations (besides XPN) that still webcast - unfortunately the letters of one escape me and the other one is the country station. Both edit out the commercials.

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