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Dave Thomer
Guardian of Peace and Justice in the Galaxy
posted 05-15-2001 11:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dave Thomer   Click Here to Email Dave Thomer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Reveal
R.E.M.
Warner Bros. Records, 2001
53:46 (Buy it from Amazon)

R.E.M. is not a band anymore. It's a music assembly organization, and a pretty good one at that. Most of the songs on Reveal make extensive use of samples, loops, and other electronic sounds, and other than on the first single ("Imitation of Life"), it rarely sounds like Peter Buck, Mike Mills and Michael Stipe were together in the studio with their backup musicians playing a song live or semi-live. The result is an "atmospheric" album with a lot of nice touches, but I think it lacks the heart and energy of R.E.M. classics like Automatic for the People and New Adventures in Hi-Fi. The album is on in the background as I write this review; this is my third go-round with Reveal today, and it is definitely growing on me, but for the most part this is an album I'll keep in the background. There, moody, understated songs like "Saturn Rising" or "I've Been High" have the maximum effect, and the loops and samples set a tone rather than lapse into repetitiveness.

That said, there are a few really, really good songs here. We've talked about "Imitation of Life" elsewhere, but it's a great song where the band's musicianship has the chance to shine. I really like the lyrics to "The Lifting," which include the refrain "You've said the air was singing/It's calling you you don't believe/these things you've never seen, never dreamed." It's one of the few very up-tempo songs on the album, and the combined effect feels like a prod to escape and move beyond your preconceptions. (No wonder I find such lyrics appealing, eh?) And there are some truly lovely songs here, like "Beat a Drum" and "I'll Take the Rain," which have a subdued, mellow emotional core that make them an ideal soundtrack for daydreaming. You can't listen to these songs too hard -- you have to let them carry you away. That Buck, Mills and Stipe can put together songs like this is why I still respect them as musicians and as a group, even if I do miss the band they used to be.

I think that people will have much the same response to this album that they did to Up . . . for the most part, the style and approach is similar, as are the strengths and weaknesses. Since I liked Up, I'm happy with Reveal -- but anyone looking for an echo of pre-1998 R.E.M. will probably be disappointed.

[This message has been edited by Dave Thomer (edited 05-15-2001).]

slgorman
One of the Regulars
posted 07-11-2001 03:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for slgorman   Click Here to Email slgorman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You may want to catch this on the web (as this station does live webcasting so anyone can catch it) at www.kfog.com:
quote:
Wednesday and Sunday 7/11 & 7/15 at 8PM:
This week - A 90-minute special with REM, recorded live in New York.

KFOG's Big Rick Stuart hosts a national concert
broadcast with......REM! They've decided not to tour
behind the new album "Reveal", so this may be the only
way you'll hear live REM this year..



Time listed is PDT, so plan accordingly.

[This message has been edited by slgorman (edited 07-11-2001).]

Pattie Gillett
True Believer
posted 07-12-2001 10:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Pattie Gillett   Click Here to Email Pattie Gillett     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Resident REM fans can correct me (and I'm sure you will) but don't the always decide not to tour, then tour anyway?

Dave Thomer
Guardian of Peace and Justice in the Galaxy
posted 09-17-2001 09:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dave Thomer   Click Here to Email Dave Thomer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Nah, unfortunately, they stuck to their guns following Out of Time, Automatic for the People and New Adventures in Hi-Fi. As the latter two are among my favorite albums, ever, this bummed me out more than a little bit.

With Up, I think the original idea was to tour. Then Bill Berry left the band, and they decided not to. Then they decided they liked playing the music from Up live, so they decided to go on tour. I'm glad they did, because when they reimagined those songs as pieces for a live band, they were really good. I can't wait to see what they do with the better songs from Reveal, whenever they do hit the road again.

Dave Thomer
Guardian of Peace and Justice in the Galaxy
posted 03-19-2003 01:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dave Thomer   Click Here to Email Dave Thomer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Aforementioned hitting the road should occur this fall in the U.S., although dates have not yet been announced.

For kicks, I've been listening to this album again lately, and just like Up it has really grown on me. I don't think I've really changed my mind on what my favorite songs are, but pretty much across the board I like all of them more than I did two years ago.

Dave Thomer
Guardian of Peace and Justice in the Galaxy
posted 04-25-2003 02:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dave Thomer   Click Here to Email Dave Thomer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Philadelphia, 10/1, with Pete Yorn opening. I am a very, very happy camper.

Also, it looks like it's not on the REM home page anymore, but you can still hear a stream of 'The Final Straw' by heading to this page. Regardless of your thoughts on the politics involved, it's a damn good song.

Dave Thomer
Guardian of Peace and Justice in the Galaxy
posted 07-01-2003 03:45 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dave Thomer   Click Here to Email Dave Thomer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Better check out that stream, because 'Final Straw' will not be on In Time, the best-of CD that covers 1988 to the present --Green through Reveal, plus two new songs. It comes out in late October here in the States. (Edit: Never mind on checking out the strea, I think they took it down when they redid their site.)

Criminy. R.E.M.'s been my favorite band for something like 13 years now. We're getting very close to half-my-life status there. I'm going to stop that thought right now before I feel any older.

[This message has been edited by Dave Thomer (edited 07-03-2003).]

Earl Green
True Believer
posted 07-01-2003 06:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Earl Green   Click Here to Email Earl Green     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hey, I've had the same favorite band since 1977 or so. I don't wanna hear it.

JackIntveld
Just Got Here
posted 07-02-2003 06:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for JackIntveld   Click Here to Email JackIntveld     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I've had the same favorite band (Yes) since 1973.

Top that anyone?

Dave Thomer
Guardian of Peace and Justice in the Galaxy
posted 07-03-2003 12:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dave Thomer   Click Here to Email Dave Thomer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
When the conversation moves to years that predate my birth, I have to bow out. But what really feels odd about the whole almost-half-my-life thing is that R.E.M. wasn't my favorite band as far back as I can recall or anything of the sort. I didn't become a fan until I was in high school, which was also the same time period I think I started growing up into a person that I'm now pretty happy to be. I don't think the timing there is coincidental - at least, it doesn't feel that way to me. R.E.M. was the soundtrack for, and in some small way the instigator of, some significant transformative experiences in my life, and it feels really weird to think about what a long time ago that was.

But I think we're getting very close to reviving the Nostalgia thread, so I'll stop there.

Dave Thomer
Guardian of Peace and Justice in the Galaxy
posted 08-30-2003 01:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dave Thomer   Click Here to Email Dave Thomer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Check out www.remhq.com this Sunday night (depending on your time zone) for a live stream of that night's concert. Since i have tickets for the show next month, I am really torn as to whether or not I should try for a preview . . .

Earl Green
True Believer
posted 08-30-2003 06:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Earl Green   Click Here to Email Earl Green     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Unlike a lot of other acts we could both name, REM isn't tied to a sequencer or a pre-recording backing track for their live stuff. Hence, no two shows will be the same. I'd say it's safe to get a sneak peak.

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