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Dave Thomer
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posted 08-27-2001 11:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dave Thomer   Click Here to Email Dave Thomer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The August Humor update is now online.

Pattie Gillett
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posted 08-27-2001 11:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Pattie Gillett   Click Here to Email Pattie Gillett     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
First let me preface this response with this: I had an absolutely terrific time in San Diego. It was a great convention in a great city. I am probably going to do whatever is in my power to make sure we go back at some point. That said, I'd like to point out the following:

If five sticks of Wrigley's spearmint gum do nothing to alleviate your air-pressure-ear clog problem, can you reasonably expect five more to work a miracle?

Remember that "Wear Sunscreen" song from a few years back? They might have something there. (Ow, Ow . . .Owwwwww!)

I don't care how beautiful your convention center is (and San Diego's is fairly attractive), that does not give you the right to charge $3 for one stinkin' Snapple. No way, no how.

Note to all California waiters: unless I'm wearing a large sign that says "I can get your screenplay to Kevin Smith," please take my order first, ask questions later. (I swear, this actually happened.)

Kevin Ott
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posted 08-27-2001 11:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kevin Ott   Click Here to Email Kevin Ott     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I used to live in San Diego. I missed the Comic-Con when I was there, but I also didn't have to be anywhere near any Kevin Smith fans, so there you go.

See, on my vacation this year, I chose to go backpacking through the woods of northern Maine, so Dave and I were about as far apart as two people can get without actually leaving the lower 48. I had leeches and bears to contend with, but at least they didn't go on about Clerks for hours like it was the Bhagvad-Gita.

It was relaxing and invigorating at the same time, even though we got lost on the first night and I forgot all those wildlife field guides I own, so whenever I saw an example of wildlife I could only point clumsily into the woods and blurt out Nelly Furtado lyrics ("Um, like -- a bird."), and there was also the whole Blair Witch issue to contend with. But it was fun.

We never saw anyone at all, which was really great. We saw a park ranger once, who gave us directions to the nearest campsite, which seemed like a good idea at the time, since all the trails were blazed with the same color and some of the signs had been -- really -- eaten by beavers. But it actually turned out the park ranger was insane.

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PARK RANGER: Okay, what you want to do is you want to go about three miles down the Upper Fowler Pond trail until you come to the sign which will point you in the direction of the Middle Fowler Pond trail.

ME: But the last sign was eaten by beavers.

PARK RANGER: Right. Then you want to take a left and follow the blazes on the trees until you come to the Middle Fowler Pond trail, which should be clearly marked by a sign.

ME: Um.

PARK RANGER: Then you want to make a left at the one tree that looks kind of like a telephone pole. Then another left at the next tree that looks kind of like a giant stick sticking up out of the ground.

ME: Aren't there thousands of trees? I mean, it is Maine, right?

PARK RANGER: Be sure and pack out your trash now.

ME: Um. Okay, thanks, I guess.

PARK RANGER: Say, have you ever seen Clerks?


The hell with it. Next year I'm going to the Comic-Con.

Dave Thomer
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posted 08-29-2001 01:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dave Thomer   Click Here to Email Dave Thomer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Pattie Gillett:

If five sticks of Wrigley's spearmint gum do nothing to alleviate your air-pressure-ear clog problem, can you reasonably expect five more to work a miracle?


This is the sort of wisecrack I'm almost glad I wasn't able to hear . . .

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Remember that "Wear Sunscreen" song from a few years back? They might have something there. (Ow, Ow . . .Owwwwww!)

Particularly on a boat in the middle of the flarging bay in the middle ofthe afternoon. They almost didn't let Pattie on the place because they thought she was trying to smuggle a six-foot-tall lobster . . .

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I don't care how beautiful your convention center is (and San Diego's is fairly attractive), that does not give you the right to charge $3 for one stinkin' Snapple. No way, no how.

And I, Snapple junkie that I am, paid for my fix. I did draw the line at the three dollar slice of pizza after the first day, though.

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Note to all California waiters: unless I'm wearing a large sign that says "I can get your screenplay to Kevin Smith," please take my order first, ask questions later. (I swear, this actually happened.)

I truly shudder to think of what a con in LA would have been like.

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Originally posted by Kevin Ott:

I had leeches and bears to contend with, but at least they didn't go on about Clerks for hours like it was the Bhagvad-Gita.


Other than the waiter, who wasn't even part of the con, we really didn't run into many Kevin Smith enthusiasts, if any. We did pick up a promo poster for Green Arrow for my brother, though.

You know, what was really kind of depressing were the number of sci-fi vets at the con who really didn't seem to be attracting a lot of attention. Phil Brown, the guy who played Uncle Owen in Star Wars. was there, in a wheelchair no less, I think -- and when I looked at his table not a person was there to talk to him.

I'm not even gonna get into the guy who played Admiral Motti. All I can say is, if you have a name I don't recognize, you might have a bit of a problem.

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blurt out Nelly Furtado lyrics ("Um, like -- a bird.")

Turn out the light, we have a winner.

slgorman
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posted 08-31-2001 05:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for slgorman   Click Here to Email slgorman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Damn, Kevin. Are you gonna come to my office and clean the Diet Coke out of the nooks and crannies in my keyboard now? I'm serious.

Ah, summer vacation. I went to Italy and Hungary with friends. Actually, we had a great time.
Except for the part where I became a living American Express ad. That wasn't so great.
But I have gotten a lot of milage out of the whole sordid robbery mess.
And a lovely photo to boot. [If anyone even asks if I look anything like that picture, I will hunt you down and kill you like the dog you are. Seriously. It's not funny.]

Dave, I am sending this story on to my aunt who lives part of the year in San Diego. She will find you recount of the weather amusing. I know I did.

[This message has been edited by slgorman (edited 08-31-2001).]

Dave Thomer
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posted 09-04-2001 08:32 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dave Thomer   Click Here to Email Dave Thomer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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She will find your recount of the weather amusing. I know I did.

What, are you gonna claim you had bad weather because one day the high was 85? Seriously, glad you were amused.

And while I feel your pain as far as your robbery story, I got a chuckle over the 'do you have any change' exchange. I used to get criticized by a fellow Founding Editor when out shopping because I didn't immediately put my change back in my wallet. Then I got mugged, and rather than hand over my wallet I gave the mugger the six bucks that I had put in my pocket, and thus managed to avoid the calling-to-cancel-cards disaster. So while I did have the trauma of being held up at gunpoint, being able to point out that I was right almost made up for it.

Pattie Gillett
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posted 09-04-2001 10:08 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Pattie Gillett   Click Here to Email Pattie Gillett     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
And you had better believe that he has not let that "Fellow Editor" forget it!

slgorman
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posted 09-04-2001 01:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for slgorman   Click Here to Email slgorman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Robbed at gunpoint, man do I feel lucky now. I keep telling people that now that it's all over I'm glad it went down the way it did because if I had been robbed here I would have been beaten, raped, murdered, hurt or some other such awful thing. Whereas all that happened was a sneaky urchin and his friend got into my bag and swiped my purse.

How is the convention center in SD? I missed a big conference there a few years ago and haven't seen that one. Nice? Good sized to get around? [Oh Lord, if you ever have to go to a conference at the convention center in Orlando, bring roller skates. The place is HUGE!]

Pattie Gillett
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posted 09-04-2001 02:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Pattie Gillett   Click Here to Email Pattie Gillett     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Continuing on the city's "absurdly attractive" theme, the SD Convention Center is very pretty. There's a "Sails Pavilion" on the second floor that's supposed to remind you of the Sydney Opera House and/or the new Denver Airport. It's right on the water so you can head out back to the terrace during your down times and eat lunch, watch the ships go by, etc. (Just don't buy food from the Cafe in the center, you'll be broke by the end of the day - there are plenty of cheaper places to get tasty food to smuggle in with you.) The place is pretty darn big, though I don't have numbers for you. They were working on adding even more to it, as I recall. It took at least twenty minutes for me to walk it from end to end, but that was at peak crowd time. I did not have the privilege of seeing the place empty. I know that at least of the presenters used "convention floor walking" as his exercise for those three days.

The center itself is near tons of good restaurants in the Gaslamp District and the Seaport Village/waterfront area. There are two hotels right next door, the Marriott and the Hyatt. Dave and I stayed at the Hyatt. There are more hotels further inland in the Gaslamp area.

Kevin Ott
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posted 09-04-2001 02:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kevin Ott   Click Here to Email Kevin Ott     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Totally weird Gaslamp Quarter story:

I was living in San Diego a few years ago when the Super Bowl (Packers-Broncos) came to town, and I was actually lucky enough to see the game itself (I would have been luckier if I actually liked football, but whattayagonnado). Better than the game, though, was the citywide party that came with it.

So one night I was walking down the street in the Gaslamp Quarter -- the place was packed with bacchalanian revelers -- and saw two guys holding signs and bullhorns. The signs had things like "REPENT" and "ACCEPT JESUS" written on them, and the guys were shouting through the bullhorns that everyone was going to hell if they didn't shape up and stop drinking and accept Jesus into their hearts and maybe put some damn clothes on. Not the wisest thing to do in the middle of a Mardis Gras-like atmosphere, but I'm guessing the J-Dog had their backs in case anyone decided to go hatin' on their proselytizin'.

Anyway, a small crowd of people had gathered around one of the men to jeer and mock him; I could hardly be sympathetic, since I didn't feel he was taking the brightest approach to evangelism. I approached the second guy and asked him if maybe there wasn't a better way to get people interested in Christianity than waiting until they're drunk and then telling them Satan's got a room all made up for them.

"Well," he said, "This probably isn't the best way, but it's not my choice."

I asked him what he meant, and he pointed to a guy about a hundred feet away, sitting on a lawn chair with his feet up. Next to him was the loudspeaker that the bullhorns were connected to. Nobody was bothering him, since nobody really knew that he was connected to the other guys. The guy in the chair was the boss, it turned out, and he was putting the guys with the bullhorns on the front lines.

I walked away and didn't bother the guy anymore. He didn't need it -- his life was tough enough.

slgorman
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posted 09-04-2001 03:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for slgorman   Click Here to Email slgorman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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I would have been luckier if I actually liked football, but whattayagonnado

And my unending love for Kevin has just come to a large bump in the road.

BTW, those Jesus-freak people are standard in SD. All of the (three) times I've ever been to the SDSU campus they were there, hassling the college co-ed's in shorts and such. My friend says they are there nearly everyday. I think they may be branching out, the last time I went to a Cal football game (Forgive me, they were playing UCLA.), they were there. Complete with the going-to-hell-in-a-bunch-of-flames posters and such. I didn't see them at the end of the game, no doubt they had been killed by drunken frat boys.

Dave Thomer
Guardian of Peace and Justice in the Galaxy
posted 09-05-2001 04:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dave Thomer   Click Here to Email Dave Thomer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hmm. I think we missed the preachers . . .oh well. To echo Pattie's comments, the SDCC is a beautiful building, and it's huge. It took me a day to really absorb the enormity of it. There are at least sixteen conference rooms that provide lots of meetings space, and the con floor itself -- it's gotta be half a mile end to end, probably closer to a full mile. Like Pattie says, it could take twenty to thirty minutes to walk from end to end, longer if you're waiting in line for George Perez.

Pattie Gillett
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posted 09-05-2001 05:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Pattie Gillett   Click Here to Email Pattie Gillett     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Put it this way, sl, You'll have no problem eating all the yummy San Diego food after you've walked back and forth on the Convention Center floor a few times.

One question, though: What is it with you Californians and Ben and Jerry's? I was craving some soft-serve out there and all I could find were Ben and Jerry's stands. I may be the one person on the planet revolted by B & J's flavors. I don't like "stuff" in my ice cream, thank you very much.

slgorman
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posted 09-06-2001 12:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for slgorman   Click Here to Email slgorman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Funny you should ask. It seems B&J are infamously placed mainly in places frequented by tourists. The only one I know of near me is in downtown San Jose or one near the wharf in San Francisco. It's not like we have a "neighborhood" B&J down the street. As for not finding soft serve, I think a few years ago there was a backlash against frozen yogurt in this state due to all the bad analogies related to our "wackiness," "penchant to be radical," and frozen yogurt. Or something.

Completely off topic, I have to go to a convention in Boston in February (yeah, I know--death the moron that planned that!). Last time I was there I did nothing but convention type stuff but would like to venture outside at times other than to cross the street to get to the convention center (or in this case, walk through some huge mall that lies in the path of the hotel and the CC). Any suggestions/ideas? I'm tempted to rent a car and hoof it to Salem (I'm related to someone hung during the Trials), but the thought of driving in a state with snow scares me. [Stop laughing now.]

Pattie Gillett
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posted 09-07-2001 10:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Pattie Gillett   Click Here to Email Pattie Gillett     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Planning a convention in February in Boston, that ranks right up there with having one in Philadelphia in August. Oh, wait . . .

slgorman
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posted 09-07-2001 11:45 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for slgorman   Click Here to Email slgorman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Heh. The last time this convention was in Boston in Feb, the June convention was in Orlando. Great planning. Urgh.

Other good convention centers/cities: San Antonio (right near the Riverwalk), New Orleans (easy access to the Streetcar system), and Washington DC (because it's DC).

Bad convention centers/cities: Dallas (in the middle of nowheresville, bused into CC), Orlando (really huge, and I hate FL), and (this one is word of mouth, but I'll let you know in June) Cinncinati.

Get the idea that I do this much?

Dave Thomer
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posted 09-10-2001 07:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dave Thomer   Click Here to Email Dave Thomer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Did a college journalism convention in New Orleans my sophomore year -- ate my way through the city. There's a blackened chicken dinner that I still count as one of the culinary highlights of my life.

Ever done a convention in Philly? I know the city's been working hard to book as much business for the convention enter here as possible. (In fact, there may be a follow up to this column in May -- a fairly major comics con has been announced for May.)

slgorman
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posted 09-10-2001 02:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for slgorman   Click Here to Email slgorman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
No Philly to date. The problem being the headquarters of my professional association (American Physical Therapy Association) is in DC. They have this "rule" that national conventions have to located geographically away from DC or in DC itself. Hence, no Philly or NYC conventions. This way, when the people who work for the Assoc come to conference, it's either a big trip or they stay on their own turf and save us paying dues members money carting them all over the country.

However, a clinical education group I belong to is having their conference in Philly in 2003. So I will finally get a partly-paid trip there soon.

Dave Thomer
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posted 09-18-2001 11:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dave Thomer   Click Here to Email Dave Thomer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Let us know when you come out. Cheesesteaks on me.


Speaking of Philadelphia in August, we can't forget Jon Stewart's description of the climate here:

"It's somewhere between a cool, crisp Main morning . . . and the inside of a humidifier. Actually, no, it's just like the inside of a humidifier."

Dave Thomer
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posted 07-31-2002 02:08 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dave Thomer   Click Here to Email Dave Thomer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Wow. It's been a year since I wrote this. One baby later, we're not heading back to San Diego this year, so I will not have the opportunity to humiliate myself trying to get sketches. I am somehow disappointed by this. The 105 degree heat indexes in Philadelphia this weekend may have something to do with it.

Earl Green
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posted 07-31-2002 04:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Earl Green   Click Here to Email Earl Green     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm similarly disappointed that I can't make it to Classic Gaming Expo in Vegas this year. What really gets me is that there are so many people who are just as disappointed that I can't make it either.

Dave Thomer
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posted 08-01-2002 10:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dave Thomer   Click Here to Email Dave Thomer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
That is the fun part of being a part of the communities that tend to gether around these conventions -- you get to actually see a bunch of them all at once. Finally getting to introduce myself to the crew from Team Red Star was a big part of the fun not only at last year's San Diego con, but at the somewhat smaller con held in Philly earlier this year.

Dave Thomer
Guardian of Peace and Justice in the Galaxy
posted 04-11-2003 01:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dave Thomer   Click Here to Email Dave Thomer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It snowed in April. It's raining and windy now.

Guess where I wanna go?

Earl Green
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posted 04-23-2003 11:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Earl Green   Click Here to Email Earl Green     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Speak for yourself - I'm going to Vegas to get my sunburn.

Dave Thomer
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posted 04-25-2003 01:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dave Thomer   Click Here to Email Dave Thomer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Desert or cool ocean breeze? Desert or great food in the Gaslamp District?

This is not a difficult choice for me.

Earl Green
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posted 04-25-2003 02:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Earl Green   Click Here to Email Earl Green     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Wherever we can go to meet some of our creative heroes, I guess it's all good.

Earl Green
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posted 06-05-2003 11:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Earl Green   Click Here to Email Earl Green     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Then again, I've just become an exhibitor at another vintage video game convention this September, somewhat closer to home. This should be an amusingly different experience to just walking the floor and gawking at stuff.

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