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Pattie Gillett
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posted 03-14-2002 01:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Pattie Gillett   Click Here to Email Pattie Gillett     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The March 2002 Special Order Speeches update is now online.

Dave Thomer
Guardian of Peace and Justice in the Galaxy
posted 03-14-2002 01:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dave Thomer   Click Here to Email Dave Thomer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This is one area where I think the Net has been particularly useful to me. I can spin around the net and try to do a little research so I have some idea what a salesperson is trying to sell me. This is a good thing, because my natural reaction is to not want to disappoint the person. Once I’m engaged in a conversation about what I’m looking for, I often have trouble breaking off the conversation with a sentence other than ‘Sure, I’ll take one.’ I do wish honesty, even the brutal kind, were more a part of the game, even if that required stronger regulation or a stricter industry code. Maybe I watched Miracle on 34th Street one too many times as a kid, but as some of my recent shopping experiences indicate, if I feel like someone’s being totally straight with me, I want to go out of my way to get that person my money. I wish more people felt like that, so that people would have a selfish reason to be honest rather than having someone else’s best interest at heart.

This is the part where my mother-in-law says that the salesperson always has his or her own interests and I need to be careful. I wish I could say I was sure she was wrong, but really, I can’t. On the other hand, at some point you gotta trust someone, which goes back to my original point. A little preparatory research can go a long way in helping establish a rapport with the person who has decided that his interests are aligned with yours.

Kevin Ott
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posted 03-14-2002 01:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kevin Ott   Click Here to Email Kevin Ott     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I always keep my trust in check when dealing with people who are trying to sell me something. Always. The guy trying to sell me a new scanner or CD player isn’t my friend, no matter how personable and friendly and likable he is, and no matter how much he reminds me of someone who might fit in well with my own circle of friends. If someone approaches me in a store asking if I need help, I generally instruct them to go away until I have specific questions they can answer. If this strikes you as a particularly harsh approach, then you can bloody well go and soak your head.

OK, seriously. The guy at Circuit City, the woman on the phone asking if you want to upgrade to the Premier Select VIP Service, and the guy at the dealership asking if you want the clear-coat paint all have one thing in common: It’s their job to sell you stuff. It’s not their job to make sure you make the best financial decision or purchase the best product at the best price (though I’ve met many whose training and experience is grounded in the real world who were extremely helpful on both these points). It’s their job to sell you stuff. Period.

Often, the consumer finds that the seller is willing to approach the situation with a large degree of respect for the consumer’s buying savvy, his specific needs and desires, and his credit limit. I’m a Saturn owner, and the Spring Hill boys know how to deliver when it comes to customer relations, so I’m well aware of a salesperson’s ability to consider me an intellectual equal, and to strike an equal balance between doing his job and making sure I’m treated fairly.

But the initial relationship between seller and buyer is an adversarial one, particularly in cases where the buyer is in the process of coming to a decision. As Pattie points out, being totally honest could potentially cost the seller a commission, so creative editorial processes usually come into play which aren’t always in the consumer’s best interests. Hell, they have to feed their kids too, right? I won’t hold it against them, but I’m not about to let my guard down, either. And because of this immediate adversarial association, I place my trust in reserve until the marketer has said or done something to earn some degree of trust from me.

The Saturn guys did it by being honest with me right off the bat. There’s no haggling at a Saturn dealership; the price you see on the sticker is the price you’re gonna pay, and if you want to dicker about the cost, you can go somewhere else. The salesman told me this right off the bat. I appreciated it; it let me know their immediate stance on selling me a car. Their philosophy: Why waste time playing "Let’s Make A Deal" when both parties know exactly what they want and what they’re willing to do for it, and there’s a lot full of cars that could potentially fill everyone’s needs?

The seller showed me a list of cars, explaining to me what was in my price range and what the advantages and disadvantages of each car were. He also didn’t make any bones about what his needs were; it was plain that he wanted me to buy a car, and that he didn’t want me to do it somewhere else. But he was patient and answered all my questions, even the dumb ones that made it plain that I had never bought a car before. Those were the questions I held in reserve until I was sure he was being straight with me; I didn’t want to make my vulnerabilities vulnerable by revealing them.

In the end, I wound up with a car I like at a price I don’t mind paying. I’m glad, though, that I entered the situation with the trepidation I had, and that I continue to do so whenever making a big financial decision.

Now, if only I can choose the best graduate school for the massive amounts of loans I’ll undoubtedly be taking out . . .

Pattie Gillett
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posted 03-21-2002 09:21 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Pattie Gillett   Click Here to Email Pattie Gillett     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I got a real kick out of this when I read it on CNN the other day. Apparently Revlon is paying the daytime soap All My Children to have a storyline involving their cosmetics and their company on the show for the next several months. Now, I know this kind of promotion isn't necessarily new (soap operas got their very nickname from fact that they were primarily funded by Proctor and Gamble in their early days and still are), it is unusual to see these days. Consumers are more aware and critical of product placement today so to see a product line actually written into the story of a show is pretty funny. To me at least.

Revlon is insisting that it was not their idea. Apparently, one of the show's writers came up with the idea and someone at the network's marketing department saw it as a sponsorship opprtunity and called Revlon.

Earl Green
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posted 06-06-2003 12:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Earl Green   Click Here to Email Earl Green     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I read somewhere the other day that a new series is being concocted in Canada with product placements in mind - passing billboards (it's set on a train), that sort of thing. That strikes me as taking it a bit too far, but so long as we don't wander into ridiculously Truman Show-like territory, I suppose it'll fly under most people's radar.

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